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Animal "Cruelty" = Art?

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« on: August 04, 2008, 08:13:05 am »

I'm not very knowledgeable on this subject, but I learned of these.

http://avery08.multiply.com/journal/item/183/please_sign_the_petition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Vargas#Exposici.C3.B3n_N.C2.B0_1

..Apparently they tied up a dog to a wall (for an unknown period of time, and it's also unclear whether they cared for the dog well) and, along with a message on the wall. Animal cruelty? Or was he just trying to show people's hypocrisy? What are your opinions on this?
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 11:49:20 am »

Its a touchy subject, on one hand its the artists vision but on the other it is indeed animal cruelty. Thats really a head scratcher...
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 05:00:20 pm »

Cruelty, there is no excuse for doing those things. In my ideal world, people like that would immediately be burned to death.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 07:42:57 am »

There would be few people left in your ideal world, then.. Relatively. Grin I dunno.. For me, it's an issue of whether the dog was cared for. Tying up a dog is fine as long as it is for short periods of time and the dog is fed well, but since it died, no, it wasn't cared for. Cruelty.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 11:55:23 am »

There would be few people left in your ideal world, then.. Relatively. Grin
That's kinda the point.... many of the world's people are scum in my eyes... sorry, pulling a bit of a Light Yagami there...

Anyway, it DIED?!?! Man, that guy is an ass.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 02:13:30 pm »

You can call anything art but there are things that are not ethically justifiable. Leaving an animal to die is not being artistic, it's being an ****.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 08:54:18 pm »

You can call anything art but there are things that are not ethically justifiable. Leaving an animal to die is not being artistic, it's being an ****.

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 02:39:41 am »

Dear God!
Does these people have any heart at all?
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 01:39:17 pm »

Call it being an **** if you want, but in my honest opinion..............................that's just sick. Just plain sick. (You thought I was going to say something else, didn't you? Tongue)
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2008, 07:17:38 am »

Call it being an **** if you want, but in my honest opinion..............................that's just sick. Just plain sick. (You thought I was going to say something else, didn't you? Tongue)
Indeed. XD
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2008, 12:25:15 am »

Cruelty, there is no excuse for doing those things. In my ideal world, people like that would immediately be burned to death.

O___o' That makes you better than those people.....how exactly? That's a very unjustifiable solution to another individual's cruelty. Not only, but it's just as cruel on your part.

I personally, would much rather put them through psychological traumas, break them from the inside. I don't kill anyone that way, I destroy them forever inside their mind, and they have to pathetically live with it for the rest of their lives.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2008, 02:18:25 am »

We are all asleep. Shall Death open our eyes? Will we learn the lesson, and become capable to really feel love for living beings?
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2008, 01:57:05 pm »

We are all asleep. Shall Death open our eyes? Will we learn the lesson, and become capable to really feel love for living beings?

Love is a sentiment forgotten when cruelty's strenght takes hold. At such a point injustice is the justifiable law of the blind and heartless.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2008, 04:02:06 pm »

Well, I'm cruel.  Tongue But only to people who are lesser than dirt, those include:
-Animal Abusers
-Murderers
-Rapists
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2008, 04:47:13 pm »

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